Say âinvestor relationsâ and most people immediately think of equity investors. But not the director of capital markets at a large manufacturer that has more than $100 billion outstanding in unsecured, asset-backed and convertible debtâand who has two team members dedicated solely to fixed-income investor relations (IR).
- At a fall meeting of  NeuGroup for Capital Markets sponsored by Deutsche Bank, the director described his companyâs deliberate, proactive approach to fixed-income IR in good times and the benefits of the effort, which often show up most clearly when market or industry conditions become rough.
- His presentation generated considerable interest from peers who came away with fresh ideas for managing an area that may not always receive the attention it deserves, where work pays off in ways that at times are hard to quantify but are evident and significant.
- Deutsche Bank bankers offered insights on how corporatesâincluding those that are infrequent issuersâcan foster relationships with debt investors as financial conditions grow more difficult and feedback from asset managers on topics like ESG and sustainable financing becomes more important.
Funding when times are tough. Fixed-income investor outreach âis critical given the need to fundâ the memberâs company and its financing arm throughout all economic cycles, including downturns, he said. Top bondholders are âanchor orders on our new deals and provide secondary market liquidity in support of our outstanding bondsââleading to more favorable pricing of new deals, according to his presentation.
- âWe spend a lot of time in the good times engaging with investors, which, we thinkâitâs hard to quantify thisâpays off in the times that arenât so good,â the member said in elaborating on the value of fixed-income IR. âFor us, itâs deal execution in a poor market, or deal execution when there are maybe some not-so-positive forces that are industry-specific.â
-  Matt Siracuse , a managing director on Deutsche Bankâs investment grade syndicate desk, added that reaching out to investors well before any deal is launched can pay off when debt market conditions move against issuers. âAs we enter into a market thatâs a bit more challenging, fostering those relationships ahead of any kind of issuance could go a long way to minimize deal risk,â he said.
- NeuGroupâs  Scott Flieger , a former banker who leads the capital markets group, said another benefit of engagement with bondholders is an issuerâs ability to complete transactions in the size they want during choppy markets, in part because investors believe a deal will be properly priced with room for some upside potential. Also, âYou can get the maturities done that you want toâand you can get both fixed- and floating-rate paper done,â he added.
Unpacking fixed-income IR. The memberâs company signals the importance of the companyâs relationship with its top bondholders by proactive outreach and offering them private calls and meetings with senior leadership, including the CEO and CFO.
- âWe prioritize one-on-one investor relations,â the member said. âThat takes more time, it takes more energy, it takes more work, but we get more candid feedback that way than group discussions.â He added, âWe pride ourselves in being best in class, trying to really engage with investors in a way that they see as a partnership.â
- One-on-one or small meetings are where investors feel more comfortable offering direct, frank feedback to issuers, Mr. Siracuse said. That may include offering critical opinions on KPIs a company may be considering for a sustainable bond.
- The presentation listed these other key workstreams for fixed-income IR:
- Supporting rating agency relationships; the fixed-income IR team owns the relationship with agencies.
- Communicating key investor information to senior management, bringing back what IR hears from investors after earnings calls.
- Leading quarterly earnings process for the companyâs financing arm.
- Supporting unsecured debt transactions.
- Preparing quarterly fixed-income presentations for investor outreach.
- At the end of a recent year, the memberâs fixed-income IR had completed more than 250 meetings, including presentations at conferences, non-deal roadshows, virtual events and gatherings at the companyâs offices. Many meetings included the companyâs equity IR team, but not all.
Other ways to engage. Infrequent debt issuers and companies that donât have dedicated fixed-income IR teams have options for efforts that will not be as extensive as the presenting member but are still worthwhile. They include:
- Tacking on fixed-income meetings at your companyâs equity conferences; consider joining your companyâs IR team when they are going to an equity conference. If you canât attend, add something to the deck the equity team is presenting.
- Making sure that if your companyâs large equity holders have big bond operations, the fixed-income side of the asset manager takes a serious look at starting or increasing debt holdings.
- Asking banks to let you know when they are having credit conference so someone from your company can attend. If you prepare a deck for the conference, post it on the companyâs website.
- When visiting a large city, consider asking a bank to organize a lunch or afternoon session with a small group of fixed-income investors.